Want to know God better this week? Join host Jerrad Lopes and guest Greg Bledsoe as they challenge the Dad Tired listeners with one specific exercise that a family can do to learn more about who God is.
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One Thing You Can Do This Week To Know God Better (with Greg Bledsoe)
Jerrad: Greg so excited to have you hanging out with us today man [2:24] for the audience who may not be familiar with you tell us who you are what you up to these days
Greg: Yeah so my name is Greg Bledose I spent the last twenty-ish years in San Diego wife two kids two years old 6 years old so we're in the thick of it but right now we're actually out on the road we live in our car and we're just trying to see as much as we can and teach our kids as much as we can over the next plans to do it for about a year we'll see what happens down but we're loving it was a long road to get here and now we're everyday's an adventure [2:56]
Jerrad: Yeah man well some guys who are watching if they're watching on YouTube if we post this on YouTube I don't know if we will because I just woke up like 30 minutes ago and I look like I live out of the car I didn't meant for that to sound offensive
Greg: Not at all
Jerrad: If they're watching they may recognize your face if theyre listening and they have lived in San Diego area at all in the last several years they may recognize your voice because you had a career in news
Greg: Yeah yeah
Jerrad: so tell us a little bit about that
Greg: so yeah I've spent my entire career from out of college until a few months ago with NBC News in San Diego and started out right out of college I was writing I was running the teleprompter just happy to have a job and and put what I learned in college to good use and then I spent 19 years there kind of work my way up through the ranks and ended up anchoring the weekday morning show for about the last five years so if you [3:55] woke up dark and early in the morning that's where you would have seen the we were on from 4:30 to 7 everyday so it was an early curtain call
Jerrad: I've done a couple interviews on this morning shows or I've watched a few and I just like that I can't imagine having to get up early everyday for work what time were you getting up?
Greg: I get up around 2 or 2:30 every day this was in the chapter where we had two little kids you know our second was born right in the middle of that so I know you're a dad and there's a lot of dads listening so I mean it was a grind to be up that early every morning but people in that [4:51] business do it and I did have colleagues who thrive and just do great and love it but my bodies geared a little differently and it was a struggle for me and I felt like I was I wasn't disciplined on when I would go to bed and I was just short on sleep all the time and then affects your psyche and I just you know it's over some time it brought me down a little bit I felt like I was I was always tired and I wasn't as positive as I as I was before and I liked my job I loved the people I worked with but I was just tired all the time.
Jerrad: Dad Tired
Gred: There you go!
Jerrad: This isn't really an angle I necessarily want us to spend a bunch of time in but I do want to hit it because we are in 2021 [5:11] and so we have a thing called the family leadership program in the family leadership program we invite guys in they come in it's kind of like this more intense training where guys are stepping up to be the husband father's disciples that Gods calling them to be so go through a lot of exercises that help them in that area one of the exercises that I have them go through is basically to list out all the things that they feel like are contributing that are influencing their thinking on a daily basis so this might be social media maybe they're watching news maybe the kind of music are listening to but a lot of times news does get brought up [5:46] like a lot of guys will say I'm watching probably too much news and it's affecting my overall thinking and it's affecting the way I view people or think of people or treat people or talk to people in real life so we don't have to spend a bunch of time here but from a guy who spent a lot of time in the news world you have any thoughts on that or like advice for guys who may be consumed with news which I'll be honest I'll probably lump myself in that category I actually could geek out on news and watch news all day long I really love it but I do notice just like these other guys it does affect me it affects the way I see the world and people around me so any thoughts on that? [6:22]
Greg: yeah I mean for one I didn't spend my entire career as a journalist without loving the craft and loving and being a news junkie myself and loving storytelling primarily and so I love it I think it's an important service I just think it's one of the most important things we have in this country all of that said a lot of the news coverage especially these days I mean there's a lot of negativity out there this country is pretty divided right now and that can wear on you if you're in it every day and you're surrounded by it and so it did on me a little bit when I was out telling stories I'd love to try and tell positive stories that was my way around it and that was my way of kind of refueling my tank and kind of getting past [7:01] anything negative that we had to talk about but but that's part of it you know there's a lot of bad stuff happening in the world and it was our job to talk about a lot of those things and so I totally get it and I was right in the thick of it and there were times where that would bring me down a little bit but like I said my way around it was to try and find the good in stories and try and find people that I think that's something positive to say and so I think we with people out there right now who were taking all of that in it's important to know what's going on around you and your community in your country but also make a concerted effort to go out find the positive stories to go along with that and find out you know who's helping who's doing something good in your community in your country and hopefully that can kind of counterbalance the other stuff you're taking in and you're still informed and you still feel connected to the world around you [7:45]
Jerrad: That's great advice man and I think you're right because there's the fine line between I don't want to bury my head in the sand and just kind of be oblivious to what's happening in the world there are some crazy things happening in the world that we should be aware of but I'll just speak for myself I can't speak for every guy here but I've noticed in myself when I'm consumed with news it really does affect the way that I view the world it can affect my hope or my joy and how I view other people you know it's so funny I was telling you before we hit record that I was up late last night you know I couldn't sleep I was in bed at 8:30 I try to go to bed early and I didn't end up going to sleep until about 1 I came across this YouTube channel this is just classic you know I came across this YouTube channel where this kid [8:25] he's got to be a college student I'm sure people know who I'm talking about I'm not really big into YouTube world but he's normally like a prankster you know just goes around does pranks in public or whatever but a lot of what he was doing was actually handing out cash like he would go around pay people's rent super randomly like knock on people's door and just be like i'm going to pay rent today like what you know so caught off guard hed go up to the bus station and say I'm going to buy your car today he's like a kid i'm just like where you getting
Jerrad: Yeah it was incredible stuff so he's normally just kind of he seems like this young maybe college student a famous YouTuber I'm sure everyone knows who Im talking about I don't know who he is but what would
Greg: That makes two of us, but I love his story so yeah
Jerrad: yeah it just reminded me man as Im watching these stories of humanity you know and just like when people are putting away like the divisive issues and it just like you just see people tears you saw people [9:12] people hugging each other and just like man we’re it just we’re reminded that we're all just as broken humans trying to figure out our way in this world and for a lot of us goes listening podcast trying to figure out what does it look like to know Jesus and to love God and how does that affect the way we love our family and just like the basic fundamental stuff of living a joyful fulfilled life so anyway it was refreshing I do want to talk about how you came from I'm sure you'll have a hard time patting yourself on the back [9:39] but I'll pat you on the back you had a very successful career you had climbed the ladder and done really well in your industry and kind of made it to the top what would be the top for a lot of people and then you move from that and you started your introduction by saying I'm living in a car with my kids now we're traveling the country how did that
Greg: change what a drastic change right yeah and very intentional about it and this wasn't a rash decision one night we thought about this for ten years before we actually pulled the trigger and did it but yeah I had a good career in TV and I will always love that and and I don't know what the future holds and where I'll be after this but I think I came to a point where I wanted a change and my wife and I had talked about 10 years ago what if we just jumped in the car and drove around the country and told stories about the people we meet [10:34] and that's been sitting on my heart for a decade and over the last few years yeah know life happens we bought a home kids and career was going great and it's really easy to just get caught in that routine for the most part I was happy doing what I was doing but there was always that um that pull to go and do this thing to go tell people's stories and to go see the country and eventually we thought you know we don't want to put this off any longer we have young kids we think that this is a valuable experience for them we think they're going to learn a lot we're going to learn a lot I hope other people learn a lot and are inspired by what we're doing but it got to the point where we just said okay we don't want to wonder in 20 years why we didn't do this or what would happen if we never did and so I have no idea how this is going to turn out I mean we're right in the middle of this thing if we had done this interview in a year I'd be able to tell you oh yeah this is a great experience or don't do that [11:24]
Jerrad: Right, right
Greg: we’re in the middle of this I have no idea how this is going to turn out I don't think we're ever going to regret it and so I think in a year or ten years and when we look back I know it's going to be a have been a good experience I don't know if I financially this is going to work out well I don't know what this is going to do to my career when we come back but I feel like right now in the moment it is 100% the right decision and we just needed to find out and I know there are a lot of people out there who have this thing pulling at them and I don't know if if it's they're afraid to do it or is it scary or how long it's been there but we decided to just go for it that's where we are right now and we're loving it [12:00]
Jerrad: again I know youre youre a humble guy and so you're going to have a hard time speaking about all your accolades but I mean you won 24 Emmys for riding shooting editing you were the national press photographer association solo video journalist of the year two times in a row I mean like you have kind of an extreme story here man where you did really really well not only that but people were affirming you and your work it's not like you were at a job that was a good job of people that can I don't know if you're meant for this like everyone around you is kind of telling you you're meant for this man you're doing a good job and this is your sweet spot maybe people who are listening I imagine there's dad's listening right now and their story might not be as extreme right like they may not be end of at the top of their career ladder and they want to go to I'm going to get in the car and drive around the country [12:47] with my family for the next year maybe their spectrum is smaller their limits are smaller on that spectrum but maybe they do have something where it's like I'm in a career but I'm not happy this isn't fulfilling me this isn't giving me joy I feel like it's taking away from my family I'm not the dad I want to be on that the husband I want to be not the man I want to be but they don't know how to make that shift or maybe for a guy listening they’re like how do I even know maybe I've got this thing in my heart but I don't I don't know it might is it disobedient or irresponsible are people going to like say this is dude its a really foolish decision as trying to be the “leader of your family” provider of your family [13:23] to make this kind of decision how did you navigate those questions as I'm sure they were coming up in your mind and around you?
Greg: yeah they they come up in my mind still now daily as confident as I am at this is the right thing to do I have moments every day where I think what are you doing and like what happens when this is over you know we all have something that God has blessed us with a talent a skill a personality trait something it's not always directly related to what we do for a living but either way there's something I feel like that we all have some sort of skill and I think that we need to ask ourselves what are we supposed to do with that [14:02] are we supposed to use that for ourselves and for our for our own advancement for the betterment of our family which is fine or is there is there something that we can do to share that with other people and in storytelling is were I've always wanted to do it's what I've always loved doing being behind camera editing writing talking to people and I was lucky enough to be in a job for a long time where that was part of it and I got to meet a lot of amazing people and now my wife and I are asking ourselves okay what can we do with that we want to share it and I don't know if anyone will care or watch or listen but we want to go and tell people's stories because I feel like that's what we're good at and hopefully it resonates with people and they'll be positive stories but I think you know for dads out there may be questioning okay what do I do with this thing that I have I would say question 1 is [14:51] well what is that thing you have what can that thing you have do for other people and in our case I feel like even a simple small story about an ordinary person who may have something positive to say who may have something inspiring to say if that can make someone else's day better or help someone in a decision in their life then great then we've done our job all we our our middle men this year between what I think are some really incredible people in this country and some people who probably need to hear what they say and we just kind of want to bridge those two
Jerrad: that's a great way of saying that you know what something I can relate to in your story that I think a lot of guys will relate to is you know I served in pastoral Ministry in the church for 13 years [15:30] and I always used to tell my wife I feel like I am an oval peg trying to be fit into or a circle hole so it's close and sometimes it even feels like it's going to fit and yet there's just something a little bit off so it sounds like that's your story like I am so much of this feels like it's my sweet spot people are affirming me I love lots of aspects of my job but not all of it and there's you know there's certain things about every job that just not great you know that comes with the territory but you just know something in your guts like there's just something off here and I think some guys can relate to that where you might be doing something where you feel like I'm good at this I even like most of it but somethings still off I'm an oval peg in a circle hole what would it look like and there may be just a minor pivot a small pivot that would allow you to be in a sweet spot better if you explore that a little bit and so one thing I'd love to hear from you is I've heard you talk about kind of reflecting back in order to hear what Gods telling you today you're going to reflect back on what God has been doing in your life [16:36] in previous years can you share a little bit about that
Greg: yeah totally so for us when we made this decision to sort of walk away from a really comfortable situation it was really tough I mean the toughest decision I've made in my entire life because I liked my job I was tired but I liked my job I loved the people I worked with I had fun most days at work so that's not easy to give up but again we felt this tug to do this thing so the question is is like okay how do I know this is what we're supposed to do [17:04] because I have no idea what lies ahead so I think for us the decision was made a lot of by looking back at what had happened over the last 20 years a lot of doors had opened in my career fairly easily I didn't have to move out of San Diego I mean it was a huge blessing in this business to be able to stay in one city and grow within one station and I'm just so grateful to those people who made that happen and so we would look back at having all of these doors open having things happen along the way that made life easy and in my mind that was God preparing us to do this my skills shooting video editing telling stories stories coming falling in in my lap some people clearly hear God's voice and they say okay I know exactly what I'm supposed to do I [17:46] can hear it and for me our faith is a big part of our life but I think sometimes I struggle with knowing okay what's God telling us to do you know im not im not so sure you know and so this was a big decision for us for our future so so to make it I think we just we looked towards out past at what had happened what sorts of doors that opened for us in the past what sort of evidence was there in the past that things are working out that my work as a storyteller had been growing for 18 years and stories had fallen into my lap and people had come into my life that have made it easier and taught me things and there was so many good things that happened over a long period of time without us having to put forward that much faith and never really take any chances that it was evidence to me that okay this is our turn [18:31] now Gods done a lot for us over the last 20 years that's evidence enough for me to take a leap of faith I don't know what's ahead but enough doors have opened over the last 20 years that I feel like ones going to open for us now and so even without knowing what was going to happen we felt confident doing this because I feel like something good will come of this if only the experience with our family and I'm not expecting a million people to jump in and say this is amazing we want to be a part of this but if it's only for our family and to help us grow closer and to tell some good stories and inspire a few people that's enough in summary I think making your crazy decision [19:07] about your future that you don't know anything about it's easy to look back and you should look back and see what's happened in your past what doors has God opened in your past and then trust that.
Jerrad: yeah it's funny because I actually heard this on the news this week but I heard a news anchor talk about how we make so many life decisions based on our work and our career so it we make so many sacrifices for our work and for our career and our families often sacrifice and us as men we make big sacrifices and he said you know what's so funny about that is like when you're on your deathbed the HR you know department isn't around you you know on your deathbed they're not there you've poured out your life for them and you've made sacrifices and your family has made sacrifices for you to do your work and pour out your heart and you know they're not there on your deathbed and so basically what he was saying was [19:55] focus on the people who are going to be around you on your deathbed you know like it's okay to give up maybe some standards maybe you have to re-evaluate do we need this much money is there ways that we can sacrifice financially so that we can get back to the priorities that actually matter most and I say that I've been in a similar situation more than once where Leila and I have sat down and said people were affirming our gifts in certain areas or maybe at a church or in a ministry and said this is what you're built for and yet something didn't feel right and we've quit without knowing the next step all we knew as we felt like God for sure is telling us that it's time to move on and I have no idea what that means [20:30] but I will say I miss those seasons because the way that you rely on God the way that your prayers change the way that you you pursue God the way that you need God to show up for clarity for finances for all that is it's beautiful and I think that's the way God designed it to be you know like do not worry about tomorrow for tomorrow has enough worries of its own [Matthew 6:34] but essentially be obedient today focus on Jesus today and his kingdom today and he'll take care of the rest so I do want to talk about your kids are young
Jerrad: So you're doing this right now when I talked to you earlier you were saying like I don't even know if they'll remember like a lot of what we're doing you know like i'm trying to instill I'm doing this for my family but I don't even know how much they're going to remember [21:11] and so I know a lot of this for you is not just this next year but you're trying to build some foundational stuff for years to come can you kind of unpack that a little bit.
Greg: Yeah we have a 2 year-old an a 6 year-old and the 2 year-old probably won't remember a thing from this year 6 year olds getting a lot out of it I think he's learning a lot he's having a great time and so had we waited a few years maybe it would have been more difficult but maybe they would have got more out of it regardless I think that this decision that we made now serves as an example as parents for the rest of us raising these kids and what I mean is in 15 years if they come to us and they're having a hard time making a life decision we can say what we been there and we did that and we trusted God and we and we took a leap of faith because it's what we felt like we were supposed to do a lot of our decisions as parents may not necessarily pay off or be needed in the moment [22:03] but years later you can look back and use your life as an example for how you want your kids to get through similar situations later on in their life and I'm hoping that's what this is that when my kids get older and they're at a crossroads that they can come to us and we can give him some useful advice because we lived it because we were there too so while they may not get as much out of it now as they would when they're older I still think that this is so valuable for them and also for us as parents because it gives us a little bit more credibility I hope later on you know a lot of the times you know do as I say not as I do I mean this is an example where hopefully in the future I can say do as we did or at least have faith that things are going to be okay if you take a chance and the reason I know that as your dad is because we did it and so I think that I think that the parental advice that we can give in the future from this trip is really going to pay off while it may not pay off a lot right now in the moment.
Jerrad: I mean isn't that true for every area of our life right as a dad we got to have skin in the game and all of it whether its decision-making or integrity stuff or character stuff like I don't want to be telling my kids to do stuff that I haven't practiced put it into practice myself so one of the things I would want a listener to right now pause and just ask yourself and for those of you were listening is [23:25] is there something that right now even as your listening to this conversation you're thinking oh man my heart is up a little bit because I think I might need to step into something that scares me and I've been avoiding it or I don't want to really go there or I'm nervous about it and so I would just say man the fact that you even listening to this conversation maybe God is drawing you or maybe he's stirring something in you that you need to address and so I'll just leave it as vague as that because I God is big and he can do all kinds of things I don't know if it's in regards to your job or personal decision or a hard decision or what it is but there may be something scary that God wants you to step into that you have been avoiding and so maybe today is the day that God is trying to resurface that in your heart and make you revisit it and so whatever that means for you listener as you are listening man I'll just trust the Lord and Holy Spirit to kind work out those details but I'm going to encourage you to not avoid it Greg one of the things that I love about what you're doing is that you are going around telling people's stories I mean it would be cool alone if you just packed up the car and drove around the country and you know had a cool hands on homeschool experience kind of thing for your kids but you are doing that but you're also purposely telling peoples stories which I think is so cool by the way let's do a quick plug you know where can people watch all of what you're doing [24:47]
Greg: Oh yeah yeah welcome jump on in Family Geography Project is what we're calling this it's we’re on every social platform honestly I'm most comfortable and enjoy Instagram more than than others and so we’re probably be there more than other places but yeah wherever you are if you just search family geography project you'll find us and we're hopefully going to tell dozens of these stories throughout the year
Jerrad: Yeah so we'll leave all those links so that people can easily click on that and go find you and follow along you are an incredible storyteller and incredible videographer I mean it's like I feel like I'm watching a mini-documentary you know watching your stuff you're very very very good but where I was getting with that is your taking the time to tell ordinary peoples stories [25:29] and as I heard that part of your story I was thinking when is the last time I and probably a lot of listeners just sat down to hear somebody's story like we just don't do that anymore kind of going back to what I was talking about with the news thing we we make all kinds of assumptions about people based on the influences of the things that were listening to you but when's the last time you just sat down and listened to somebody's story with no agenda can you give the listener who maybe hasn't done that in a long time or forever how do you go about doing that what are some tips when you're trying to to hear some story and why is it so important to sit down and to hear somebody's story?
Greg: Well I think it's important for you as the storyteller and for also the person telling their story [26:14] I've interviewed enough people over the last two decades to know that I sometimes see how much it helps them to tell their story and also a lot of people don't realize that they have a story to tell
Jerrad: So true so true
Greg: Until they start talking about it and everybody you meet everybody and me everyday has something interesting to tell you something about their life they can either encourage you or that you can learn from or they can just entertain you and everybody you meet and so I'm not worried at all that there will be a shortage of stories to tell this year everybody keeps asking me where you going to find your stories honestly there's been a few along the way already that I've set up in advance and found people but we 've been meeting people and we'll be having a conversation with them and I say hey this is weird question but would you mind if I grab my camera and just talk to you for a few minutes because we we start talking to people [27:07] and we tell them what we're doing and are interested and they start telling us about them and all of a sudden there's a story these are ordinary people stories that we’re going to be telling this year and I think all of them will have something extraordinary about them as simple as they are we talked to a guy who had started a small business in the middle of the pandemic imagine with everything else closing and in it and how hard everything was to have the courage do something like [27:31] that and it's just an ordinary story but it was great we've talked to a lot of people so far so I think it's important for people to hear other people's stories because we can all learn from it there's so much division in this country right now and I don't think it's because we all have different beliefs we do but that's okay I think the problem is we're not listening to each other and we don't try to understand each other and so we have no political agenda on this trip this year but I really do think that just by hearing ordinary peoples stories that we’ll understand each other better and that helps you know people people from one part of the country may not understand people from the other part of the country simply because they grew up differently but that doesn't mean that they can't understand each other and so I hope that we can just help people listen to each other and really simple ways and really personal ways
Jerrad: its funny you say that because I was speaking somewhere in a different part of the country and I told them that I was born in California and I currently live in Portland and they were having a hard time believing I was Christian [28:30] that there were Christians out in California I know you're from California you know that's where I grew up too and so they're just like holy cow there are Christians in California you know and portland so I mean they said it kind of facetiously but if all you did was watch the news you would think there's not a single Christian on the west coast right like we can start to make some assumptions about people
Greg: I think we're going to get to certain parts of the country this year where just pulling up in a car that has California plates on it there's going to be a preconceived notion there
Jerrad: For sure [29:01]
Greg: and I've seen it already but you know what then that's that's our responsibility to help break that down somebody thinks so you're from this part of the country you don't think like me well let's talk you know let me tell you story let me tell you mine I mean again it's really simple and I hope that that helps people understand each other a little bit
Jerrad: Well here's what I would say to the dad listening right now when you hear somebody's story you are getting a glimpse of God's character that you may have been missing out on another way of saying that is if you don't hear somebody's story there may be a part of God that you don't know because you're only viewing God to the lens of your own life and to assume that you have a full holistic understanding of who God is based [29:46] on your own life is selling God short of who he is when I hear somebody story and it can literally be anyone's anybody's story I don't care if they are the richest person in the world are the poorest person the world whatever their background is you know in all kinds of any background when I get to hear somebody's story I have to keep in mind this is an image bearer of God God has put himself in them he has created them in His image and so when they share their story I get to see God from a different angle and so if you're not doing that you're actually missing out [30:20] I'm getting a more clear and full of picture of who God is and your kids are and so there's something beautiful about sitting I love to sit at a dinner table and where there's food and I have my family around and we get to hear somebody else's story and we get to let our kids hear oh man this is how God is working in their life even if they don't claim to be a Christian God is I trust that God is at work and so we get to hear how God is working throughout the world in all kinds of different peoples story and I just don't want to miss that I don't want my kids to miss that and so my challenge I keep giving challenges here to the listener but man try to have one person in your house or at least try to set it up to have dinner in your home with somebody in the next week and just have dinner with them and just hear their story no agenda just like hey man what's your story a neighbor what's your story anyway I've been rambling but I know you want to have some thoughts on that
Greg: No what a cool idea I don't know if people can’t see us if they’re listening but I'm sitting here like nodding in my head thinking woah what a good I mean we're sort of living that for a year but what a simple way to just do that at home or at school or you know just out and about in your community that's great thats way better advice than telling people to move into their car
Jerrad: Maybe we should have just started there could have saved you.
Greg: I'd still have a job right now.
Jerrad I mean just ask yourself if you're listening just ask yourself do you know your neighbors story do you know all your neighbors story I've lived here a year now and I know kind of a surface level of my neighbors story [31:51] but I don't know really their story and so I'm convicted even in myself like what would it look like for me to have my neighbor over dude I get so convicted when I do these shows thats why I love this but one of my neighbors elderly woman she brings me vegetables from her garden every week the easiest thing for me to do would just be the make a meal with the vegetables that she's brought over I made a meal that with stuff you brought over come enjoy with me and then just listen I'm convicted by that darn it this is why I shouldn't do these anymore than it would be easier to not live in the conviction but
Greg: Now by saying it out loud I’ll hold you accountable next week or next month you gotta tell us how that dinner went.
Jerrad: Okay I’m gonna do it man I really am going to do it I'm going to write it down right now and I'm going to make it on my list to invite her over for dinner man this was so good dude thank you for [32:39] coming on and sharing just a piece of your story I'm excited to follow along with your journey any last words thought or advice for the tired dad listening who maybe feels stuck in a job and just kind of in the rat race he’s doing the same thing everyday but his soul is stirring for more but he doesn't know where to go from here
Greg: well I mean the first thing I would say what we feel called to do it isn't necessarily for everyone [33:01] there's no need for you to quit your job and move into your car to feel like you are following through on whatever it is you feel like your called to do or to improve your situation I would say listen to what you think is nudging you know for me I was tired and I felt like I wasn't the same dad and husband that I had been a little bit earlier on in life and that was a nudge I think me feeling tired was God saying okay it's probably time to move on and I'm going to make that a little bit easier for you by helping you want to move on and so again I don't think anyone needs to take drastic steps in their life like we did [33:41] it’s just look for those nudges and then and ask yourself what's God trying to tell me and what can I do about it
Jerrad: yeah, what's God trying to tell me and what am I going to do about it that's a good word man we’ll end there Greg thank you so much for hanging out with us today and sharing your story we’ll look forward to following along and safe travels to you as you go around the country man.
Greg: Jerrad, thank you so much it's been an honor alright thank you
Jerrad: see ya